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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Wednesday, October 29, 2025, 21:38 (318 days ago)


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A cloudy morning made for mild temperatures. Somewhere it might've rained or sprinkled, but not in our part of downtown Zihuatanejo. That might've been our last chance for the season, though hurricane season doesn't officially end until November 30.

It was actually a very pleasant day. Bright and sunny with puffy cumulus clouds here and there teasing us. Visitors continue arriving, especially extranjeros mostly from Canada. Waterfront restaurants downtown were doing a bit more business this Wednesday evening.

There was a huge callejoneada of kids dressed for Jalogüin. The waterfront was so crowded by the Cancha Municipal we had to walk the street to return home. And unfortunately the DJ in charge of music had it turned up so loud that it was probably damaging the ears of children, who of course were as unaware of the danger as apparently their parents were. Kind of a bummer to folks who pay attention to such things (I didn't survive the 60's and 70's by being totally stupid!). Other than that, it was a wonderful party!

Kids will be out Trick-or-Treating for at least the next 4 days. It's kind of sad and funny at the same time. Something was lost in translation when some of the first local Gringos decided to bring Jalogüin here with their cultural baggage. Locals never got the date straight. Transplants from Mexico City and other big Mexican cities inundated with the same mass marketing as Gringos also had a hand in bringing Jalogüin here and diluting the local traditions of Día de Muertos which in recent years seems to be getting Disneyfied all across the country.

Since local tuna boats speed out far to fish, they currently are afraid to go fishing because of the U.S. military blowing speedboats up as red meat for the very base base of the criminal illegitimate U.S. president. A fear that has spread all up and down the coast of Mexico. This will hurt some local families as well as families elsewhere who depend on tuna fishing to make a living. Their boats look just like the boats getting blown up seen in the videos. The U.S. ambassador got a good talking to by top Mexican officials of the Armada de México and the Presidencia. Hopefully the message got through to sensible people in the U.S. government. We have protocols in place that the USA is violating, and Mexico will always defend being humane even if the U.S. government has lost its ethical and moral compass.

The sandbar at Barra de Potosí is now open. Some folks say it was illegally opened during the night by a retroexcavador. I hope not. So give it a few days for the water to clear up, unless you want to go fishing for robalo. The water along that part of the coast will be dirty for a few more days and not good for swimming.

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Siguen Las CelebraZIHones

by Tere @, Thursday, October 30, 2025, 06:59 (318 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I saw two kids with Halloween masks on two weeks ago. They're ready now!

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by surfguy, Thursday, October 30, 2025, 21:48 (317 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Fishermen who don’t traffic fentanyl with intent to commit terrorism again the US have nothing to fear.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Thursday, October 30, 2025, 22:42 (317 days ago) @ surfguy

Wow!

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by Padrino ⌂ @, Rosarito/Zihuatanejo, Thursday, October 30, 2025, 22:43 (317 days ago) @ surfguy

Fishermen who don’t traffic fentanyl with intent to commit terrorism again the US have nothing to fear.

We should have known that SurfGuy would be perfectly happy allowing the indiscriminate killing of individuals without any due process. Just like Agent Orange, as long as it isn't affecting him personally, there is no problem. I mean, really, outside a small circle of friends, who cares about the deaths of some worthless brown people?

So much for the "shining city on a hill" as Reagan called us.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Thursday, October 30, 2025, 22:48 (317 days ago) @ Padrino

:megusta:

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by jay @, Friday, October 31, 2025, 00:06 (317 days ago) @ surfguy

Fishermen who don’t traffic fentanyl with intent to commit terrorism again the US have nothing to fear.

OMG Dude! Where to start....

In fairness it doesn't seem likely that a speedy boat with 3 or 4 big motors is a fishing boat, but we can't just assume it's a drug running boat either. That's why we have what's called 'due process' and 'evidentiary hearings' to try to figure out what is in there. And it seems clear that, considering this administration's appalling lack of integrity, they don't know either. Nor do they care. That's what makes it outright murder on the high seas, regardless of what it's carrying. But to hell with the rule of law, international treaties, and common sense when there's political hay (and a juicy war with Venezuela) to be made by this rancid President. Be the first one on your block to have your boy come home (from Caracas) in a box.

Only someone like you who squints real hard in very low light could make the breathtakingly long stretch to equate drug running with terrorism. You would also need to redefine Webster's Dictionary to accomplish that.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Friday, October 31, 2025, 00:32 (317 days ago) @ jay

:megusta:

We all have reason to fear

by Little Guy @, Friday, October 31, 2025, 06:11 (317 days ago) @ surfguy

Fishermen who don’t traffic fentanyl with intent to commit terrorism again the US SHOULD have nothing to fear. Instead they face extrajudicial killing, a hallmark of authoritarian regimes.

The reality is that everyone in the world has reason to fear when a lying, vengeful, unconstrained megalomaniac is in the most powerful political position of the nation with the most powerful military in the world and backed by the most wealthy individuals and corporations in that country.

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by saildawg @, Mississippi Gulf Coast, Golfo de Mexico - Norte, Friday, October 31, 2025, 07:41 (317 days ago) @ surfguy

It's called murder and those responsible hopefully will be held accountable one day. It didn't work out too well for the Nazi's after WWII. You are one sick individual to make the comment you made and support this bull shit. Maybe you should have a bomb dropped on your head without due process because it may appear that you are doing something illegal. JD Vance's mother trafficked drugs, should she have been murdered by the police. How about holding the idiots that take the drugs responsible for their own choices. No one is forcing them to take drugs. Without demand, there is no supply.

The only thing this illegal conduct is accomplishing is making those of us who enjoy traveling abroad less safe. But, most MAGA's don't give a shit as they are weak little snowflakes afraid to leave the comfort of their basements.

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by midalake @, Friday, October 31, 2025, 08:47 (317 days ago) @ saildawg

It's called murder and those responsible hopefully will be held accountable one day. It didn't work out too well for the Nazi's after WWII. You are one sick individual to make the comment you made and support this bull shit. Maybe you should have a bomb dropped on your head without due process because it may appear that you are doing something illegal. JD Vance's mother trafficked drugs, should she have been murdered by the police. How about holding the idiots that take the drugs responsible for their own choices. No one is forcing them to take drugs. Without demand, there is no supply.

The only thing this illegal conduct is accomplishing is making those of us who enjoy traveling abroad less safe. But, most MAGA's don't give a shit as they are weak little snowflakes afraid to leave the comfort of their basements.

AMEN!!!!!

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Friday, October 31, 2025, 17:34 (316 days ago) @ saildawg

:megusta:

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, October 31, 2025, 13:40 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

Fishermen who don’t traffic fentanyl with intent to commit terrorism again the US have nothing to fear.

Thanks for once again demonstrating the total absence of moral or ethical decency, zero critical thinking skills, along with a total disregard for the U.S. Constitution and the laws that emanate from it. You are a rather typical MAGAt cult-follower of Putin's b¡tch pedo. The TERRORISTS are MAGAts and their cult leader. And now, thanks to SECDRUNK and those carrying out his UNLAWFUL ORDERS, the USA is a TERRORIST STATE. You must be so proud!

These are fishermen who make the trip either for the lure of easy money or more likely because narcos have threatened or kidnapped one or more of their family members. They're not narcos. They aren't even criminals. They're simply boat operators. And by no stretch of the imagination are they terrorists.

Over 40 million U.S. citizens prefer to use stupidly banned recreational substances. Banning them simply creates a multi-billion-dollar-a-year black market controlled by organized criminals. Heck, even the alphabet agencies of the U.S. government are known to smuggle banned substances for various reasons. Remember Iran-Contra. Remember the crack epidemic.

These substances shouldn't be illegal. They should be regulated, taxed and sold similarly to alcohol. Revenue raised should be used to treat abuse and addictions as well as to educate people to avoid abuse and addictions. History teaches us that a large percentage of the population is always going to want to use similar recreational substances. We should go with the flow, not against it.

I dare you to wear your red MAGAt hat around town, especially to a restaurant where I can guarantee you'll get special ingredients added to your meal. You like to talk the talk, but I suspect you're too much of a coward to actually walk the walk.

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by surfguy, Friday, October 31, 2025, 15:29 (316 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I dare you to wear your red MAGAt hat around town, especially to a restaurant where I can guarantee you'll get special ingredients added to your meal. You like to talk the talk, but I suspect you're too much of a coward to actually walk the walk.

Please let me know which restaurants will tamper with their patrons’ food and I’ll gladly not spend my money there.

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by Padrino ⌂ @, Rosarito/Zihuatanejo, Friday, October 31, 2025, 15:46 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

I dare you to wear your red MAGAt hat around town, especially to a restaurant where I can guarantee you'll get special ingredients added to your meal. You like to talk the talk, but I suspect you're too much of a coward to actually walk the walk.


Please let me know which restaurants will tamper with their patrons’ food and I’ll gladly not spend my money there.

Pay close attention. Rob said if you wear your MAGAt hat to a restaurant, chances are any red-blooded Mexican will be happy to spit in your food .. or worse. On the other hand, I recommend asking one of the local tee-shirt shops to create a few tee-shirts with graphics such as the ones below.

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These are guaranteed to attract well wishes and requests to have your photo taken with locals.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Friday, October 31, 2025, 17:38 (316 days ago) @ Padrino

Love these shirts lol

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by jay @, Friday, October 31, 2025, 16:12 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

I'm genuinely curious: You come here regularly and get your weak arguments consistently knocked out of the ballpark, never seeming to learn anything. Most, though not all, of the responses are thoughtful, well-reasoned, logical and based on verifiable facts. So, do you ever stop and think: Maybe I've been wrong all this time. Maybe they make some good points, and maybe I should ask more questions and listen instead of arrogantly thinking I know it all. Maybe I should think things through to see if they even make sense, and maybe I should find more reliable sources of information. Just maybe.... Do you ever do any of that? It would seem like that's the least you could do, instead of regurgitating right-wing talking points. Then your arguments would be sharper and garner more respect.

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by Fuceneh @, Friday, October 31, 2025, 16:41 (316 days ago) @ jay

Perhaps this guy is just a generally pathetic “person” and is looking for responses to amuse his altered life. I’m sure one would get tired of plucking wings off of flies after a certain amount of time.

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by Curbarn, summer b.c. winter zihua, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 14:11 (315 days ago) @ Fuceneh

i guess you havent, neither have i

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Friday, October 31, 2025, 17:41 (316 days ago) @ jay

You are asking this person to use critical thinking and we all know the MAGA's of this world are not known for this.

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by jay @, Friday, October 31, 2025, 16:26 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

Please let me know which restaurants will tamper with their patrons’ food and I’ll gladly not spend my money there.

It's just common sense, which isn't common enough. Never insult the judge who has your fate in his hands and never disrespect the waitstaff who will be alone with your food in the back. Words to live by.

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by surfguy, Friday, October 31, 2025, 17:05 (316 days ago) @ jay

Please let me know which restaurants will tamper with their patrons’ food and I’ll gladly not spend my money there.


It's just common sense, which isn't common enough. Never insult the judge who has your fate in his hands and never disrespect the waitstaff who will be alone with your food in the back. Words to live by.

So for the sake of argument, if you wore a Biden Harris hat to one of these restaurants and the staff decided that “insulted” them they should be allowed to poison your food? I don’t think you would agree with that. It’s criminal and discriminatory to do something like that. Your feelings about someone’s political stance does not entitle you to criminal acts. Grow up.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, October 31, 2025, 17:38 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

Please let me know which restaurants will tamper with their patrons’ food and I’ll gladly not spend my money there.


It's just common sense, which isn't common enough. Never insult the judge who has your fate in his hands and never disrespect the waitstaff who will be alone with your food in the back. Words to live by.


So for the sake of argument, if you wore a Biden Harris hat to one of these restaurants and the staff decided that “insulted” them they should be allowed to poison your food? I don’t think you would agree with that. It’s criminal and discriminatory to do something like that. Your feelings about someone’s political stance does not entitle you to criminal acts. Grow up.

A false equivalency is the best you can do? You're the one who needs to GROW UP! President Biden and Kamala Harris were respected the world over, INCLUDING in Latin America even AFTER Kamala told people to stop coming to the USA and worked with Mexico and other nations to stop them from migrating. Just because the closed-minded little circle of people with whom you interact who all are avid cult followers and Faux News viewers have all lost your minds over "owning the libs" and hate President Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris doesn't mean that's even a thing in the real world. It ain't.

If you care anything at all about laws of the U.S. Constitution being upheld, then wake the phuq up! There's a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, insurrectionist, traitor, pedophile, and murderer in the White House openly accepting bribes and stealing from We The People's Treasury. That's if you really and truly care.

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by Max, Friday, October 31, 2025, 17:46 (316 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Para que te preocuparse por las leyes estuonidense si no vives alli ni te importa?

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by surfguy, Friday, October 31, 2025, 18:00 (316 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Please let me know which restaurants will tamper with their patrons’ food and I’ll gladly not spend my money there.


It's just common sense, which isn't common enough. Never insult the judge who has your fate in his hands and never disrespect the waitstaff who will be alone with your food in the back. Words to live by.


So for the sake of argument, if you wore a Biden Harris hat to one of these restaurants and the staff decided that “insulted” them they should be allowed to poison your food? I don’t think you would agree with that. It’s criminal and discriminatory to do something like that. Your feelings about someone’s political stance does not entitle you to criminal acts. Grow up.


A false equivalency is the best you can do? You're the one who needs to GROW UP! President Biden and Kamala Harris were respected the world over, INCLUDING in Latin America even AFTER Kamala told people to stop coming to the USA and worked with Mexico and other nations to stop them from migrating. Just because the closed-minded little circle of people with whom you interact who all are avid cult followers and Faux News viewers have all lost your minds over "owning the libs" and hate President Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris doesn't mean that's even a thing in the real world. It ain't.

If you care anything at all about laws of the U.S. Constitution being upheld, then wake the phuq up! There's a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, insurrectionist, traitor, pedophile, and murderer in the White House openly accepting bribes and stealing from We The People's Treasury. That's if you really and truly care.

There couldn’t be a more simple equivalency. They both were 2025 us presidential candidates and 50% of US citizens voted for Trump. I would never suggest what “Latin America” thinks about either candidate because I only speak for myself and it’s a massive group of countries with a unique and diverse populace. But please continue to reduce their ability to have any ability to have their own viewpoints as you clearly represent all of Latin America.

My point was no one deserves to have their food poisoned…if you can’t agree on that seek help.

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by Max, Friday, October 31, 2025, 18:02 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

That's like spitting in a co-workers sandwich and placing it back in the fridge.

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by Padrino ⌂ @, Rosarito/Zihuatanejo, Friday, October 31, 2025, 22:00 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

My point was no one deserves to have their food poisoned…if you can’t agree on that seek help.

You have a tremendous future at Faux News, SurfGuy. Not a single response from anyone on this forum advocated or condoned the behavoir of tampering with the food of someone wearing a MAGAt hat. But that doesn't stop you from accusing those with whom you disagree with of doing so. The posts were simply trying to state that it is a simple and obvious observation that if you are displaying your love and admiration for someone who has made such vile accusations against a country and its inhabitants and now is ordering the indiscriminate murder of its citizens, you should expect to treated with contempt by fellow citizens of that country. No one justified it. No one advocated for it. But, of course, you believe that you and the Orange Mussolini are the real victims, right? So you twist the words of those with whom you disagree with so you can say, "if you can't agree [with me] on that, seek help."

However, that was not your point at all. From the beginning, your point was to justify the killing of individuals without any due process whatsoever. If you can't agree that this is a heinous crime against humanity, then you are the one who should seek help.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 02:15 (316 days ago) @ Padrino

:megusta:

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 02:20 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

Are you on drugs or something? Why posting such lies non stop here? There was never 50% of the voters that put a vote for this idiot of a president. 33% of the eligible voters voted for him! The only reason he got elected is people did not vote.And you ended up with the worst president in history that makes the US looks so foolish!

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by Curbarn, summer b.c. winter zihua, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 14:16 (315 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

im sorry while i agree with most of what you say. The biden era was a failure Harris wasnt popular enoug, to come close to getting elected. Trump is an idiot. But that last tub of goo, was just nonsense.

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by jay @, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 06:21 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

the staff decided that “insulted” them they should be allowed to poison your food?

Shoddy thinking Dude. Look again. I never said it was right and proper to do so. Only that it's a good idea not to provoke someone who has leverage over you.

Sometimes it's better to just take your licking and call it a day.

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by Little Guy @, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 15:13 (315 days ago) @ jay

I also don’t recall anyone except surfguy making mention of poison.

That is another technique of right-wing apologists. Say that others made a threat that was not made, then express rage ate the threat that was never made.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 16:46 (315 days ago) @ Little Guy

Exactly!

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by surfguy, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 17:02 (315 days ago) @ cd69

“where I can guarantee you'll get special ingredients added to your meal.”

Guys, all I said was I’d like to avoid restaurants where the kitchen will tamper with a patron’s food (according to Rob) based on their race, gender, sexuality or any other attribute they dislike. What if they dislike foreigners? This is an informational message board about Zihua and I think it’s reasonable to ask which restaurants choose to mess with people’s food at their discretion.

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by Max, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 18:28 (315 days ago) @ surfguy

Parece cual que lugar donde "piensa", es MAGA.

Los MAGAs parence Blanco. Cuidate si eres Blanco.

Tambien los blancos de Canada.

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by surfguy, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 18:43 (315 days ago) @ Max

Parece cual que lugar donde "piensa", es MAGA.

Los MAGAs parence Blanco. Cuidate si eres Blanco.

Tambien los blancos de Canada.

El 44% de los hispanos votó por Trump. Los números no concuerdan con tus suposiciones. Por la forma en que hablas, solo los blancos votaron por él.

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by Max, Saturday, November 01, 2025, 19:24 (315 days ago) @ surfguy

Gracias a Dios soy Mexicano a cien de sangre.

Lo de "tiempo" no vale y lo sabe.

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by cd69 @, Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Sunday, November 02, 2025, 02:32 (315 days ago) @ surfguy

You really need to stop with this nonsense and bs numbers! 44% my ass! When they had the worst numbers of voters ever! It is the only reason this criminal got elected. And you wonder why MAGA's are not welcome in Zihua and pretty much anywhere outside the US? Because you keep spewing nonsense and are ok having a criminal running your country. We come to Zihua so we do not see your type! You have seen a drop of tourism into your country because the world is now seeing the type of president you have and nobody wants to have to deal with his policies. 35% less Canadians are crossing the border since his tariffs came up and his bs of the 51rst state.

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by surfguy, Sunday, November 02, 2025, 07:49 (315 days ago) @ cd69

You really need to stop with this nonsense and bs numbers! 44% my ass! When they had the worst numbers of voters ever! It is the only reason this criminal got elected.

https://pewrsr.ch/3Tbflih

You’re entitled to your own opinion but you don’t get to speak for entire demographics and communities.

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by Little Guy @, Sunday, November 02, 2025, 10:26 (314 days ago) @ surfguy

And you are entitled to have your own opinion, but not your own facts.

The detailed information from your link shows that among those who voted,

The majority of non-Hispanic White voters voted for Trump.

The majority of Black voters and the majority of Hispanic voters and the majority of Asian voters voted for Harris.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1JczVvbrlxkLiYYiNPSv0TRlWsbvYEihkZrnH1kQXIH8/htmlview?pli=1

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Sunday, November 02, 2025, 11:05 (314 days ago) @ surfguy

You really need to stop with this nonsense and bs numbers! 44% my ass! When they had the worst numbers of voters ever! It is the only reason this criminal got elected.


https://pewrsr.ch/3Tbflih

You’re entitled to your own opinion but you don’t get to speak for entire demographics and communities.

Apparently you don't understand your own reference source. The bottom line is, discounting alleged hanky-panky by Musk even though Felon47 attributes him with winning the election for him because of his knowledge of voting machines, only 22% of the population voted for the Pedophile-in-Chief. Not half of the electorate, and he didn't even win by half the votes. He "won" by less than a 1.5% margin. He has NO MANDATE, NO MAJORITY. He has violated the laws of the Constitution every single day, and the GOP (Guardians Of Pedophiles) have shown they are 100% good with that. They aren't the party of law & order. They're the party of criminals and pedophiles.

Whatever way Latinos may have voted, the great majority have since changed their opinion. MOST DIDN'T VOTE. RAPEublicans are now losing elections in what were solid red districts by large margins. That's why they're planning to sabotage the mid-terms in order to hold onto power. It's why Squeaker Johnson won't allow the House to come to session, in blatant violation of the Constitution. They don't give a gnat's fart about We The People or the country. Minority Speaker Jeffries should declare House GOP seats ABANDONED, assume the duties of Speaker and carry on without the RAPublicans who have all abandoned their duties.

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by midalake @, Sunday, November 02, 2025, 08:01 (315 days ago) @ cd69

You really need to stop with this nonsense and bs numbers! 44% my ass! When they had the worst numbers of voters ever! It is the only reason this criminal got elected. And you wonder why MAGA's are not welcome in Zihua and pretty much anywhere outside the US? Because you keep spewing nonsense and are ok having a criminal running your country. We come to Zihua so we do not see your type! You have seen a drop of tourism into your country because the world is now seeing the type of president you have and nobody wants to have to deal with his policies. 35% less Canadians are crossing the border since his tariffs came up and his bs of the 51rst state.

100% Spot on>>>>Keep that Red Hat stench out of Z

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by Max, Friday, October 31, 2025, 16:57 (316 days ago) @ surfguy

No soy MAGA, pero la otra dia Deborah's me dio chorro bien feo.