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We had some torrential rains on and off for several hours Sunday evening. The lights went off several times, and several downtown streets suffered flooding. Of course, the beaches in the bay are always lined with trash after every storm. Only the municipal administration of Amador Campos (2002-2005) even tried to tackle this problem. No one else. The bottom of the bay from one side to the other used to be visible most days, but not for over 25 years now. I can't help but pick up garbage whenever I'm on the beach, especially plastic crap. I wish I didn't feel so alone doing so. :-(

Rain continues in the local forecast for the next several days. It's been raining off-and-on since late afternoon this Monday. It certainly has helped bring the temperatures down.

There were hardly any visitors around this Monday. Extremely slow tourism-wise.

A real dream may come true for our region. La Comisión Nacional de Áreas Naturales Protegidas (Conanp) is trying to establish as an Área Natural Protegida a large marine region from Isla Ixtapa to Puerto Vicente Guerrero in order to protect and preserve the marine ecosystem. Fishermen will still be able to fish, but populations of species and where people like to visit will be carefully managed so as not the harm the marine ecosystem. I think this is terrific news! This could help remedy numerous problems that local governments irresponsably have left unattended, such as protecting sea turtle nesting sites including areas with restaurants at Isla Ixtapa, protecting coral formations, and establishing mooring areas for boats so as not to drag their anchors across the coral as too many continue doing.

Despite the rain, the waves continue decreasing in size, and the bay seems fairly calm. However, in spite of the recent news of our beaches being apt for swimming, the water testing was done after a long period of no rain. After the heavy rains we've been receiving since yesterday, I don't recommend swimming in the water. This from someone who grew up swimming in the Ohio River. There should be warning signs at our local beaches after heavy rains, but only one local mayor ever put some up once during his term over 11 years ago, and he was heavily criticized for it. Nothing since then. :-(

A good rule of thumb is to wait 3 days to swim in the ocean after a heavy rain.

Hotel Quinta Camelinas is one of Zihuatanejo's hidden gems. A truly lovely and extremely comfortable colonial-style boutique hotel with a pool offering different sized rooms and suites, perfect for couples, all with air-conditioning, cable TV and wi-fi internet access. Conveniently located in a quiet neighborhood two blocks from La Madera Beach in the Darío Galeana neighborhood near the fire department. (click to enlarge photo)
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Well....just like you I am one of those people that picks up beach trash whenever I'm walking. I can't help but notice people looking at the plastic and walking around it while I make a point of picking it up - can't ignore it.

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Well....just like you I am one of those people that picks up beach trash whenever I'm walking. I can't help but notice people looking at the plastic and walking around it while I make a point of picking it up - can't ignore it.

¡GRACIAS GRACIAS GRACIAS! If only everyone picked up at least a little instead of acting like it's normal and ignoring it or leaving it for the beach sweepers.

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If only everyone picked up at least a little instead of acting like it's normal and ignoring it or leaving it for the beach sweepers.

Not trying to earn a medal, but for what it is worth, whenever I go into the water, when I exit, I must remove at least one piece of plastic or other man-made item that does not belong in the ocean. Although sometimes it feels like a futile gesture, it reminds me of the The Star Thrower, also referred to as The Starfish Story. A man is watching a boy throwing stranded starfish back into the ocean. The man remarks that there are miles of beach and countless starfish, so the boy's efforts can't possibly make a difference. The boy picks up a single starfish, throws it into the waves, and replies, "It made a difference for that one."

I know. Kinda' hokey, but sincere.

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If only everyone picked up at least a little instead of acting like it's normal and ignoring it or leaving it for the beach sweepers.

Not trying to earn a medal, but for what it is worth, whenever I go into the water, when I exit, I must remove at least one piece of plastic or other man-made item that does not belong in the ocean. Although sometimes it feels like a futile gesture, it reminds me of the The Star Thrower, also referred to as The Starfish Story. A man is watching a boy throwing stranded starfish back into the ocean. The man remarks that there are miles of beach and countless starfish, so the boy's efforts can't possibly make a difference. The boy picks up a single starfish, throws it into the waves, and replies, "It made a difference for that one."

I know. Kinda' hokey, but sincere.

That's basically what some people say to me, and that's my thinking, too. It makes a difference to that spot on the beach not to have plastic crap on it. ¡GRACIAS!

What really breaks my heart is to see hermit crabs using plastic crap for shells because people take all the shells off the beach, something I've simply never done nor felt a need to. Shells look prettier on the beach, other marine animals need them, and their descomposition in the ocean helps to deacidify the ocean.

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With all the had core complaining about the changes being made to Zihua and the desire to keep it the quaint place it use to be…

The city needs to get into the 1960’s with a modicum of sewage treatment. Or is human waste flowing into your your beautiful bay just another quaint old time way of Zihua we want to keep?

Edit. Idk, maybe “don’t swim within three days of a rainstorm” should be the new Zihua advertising campaign slogan.

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With all the had core complaining about the changes being made to Zihua and the desire to keep it the quaint place it use to be…

The city needs to get into the 1960’s with a modicum of sewage treatment. Or is human waste flowing into your your beautiful bay just another quaint old time way of Zihua we want to keep?

Edit. Idk, maybe “don’t swim within three days of a rainstorm” should be the new Zihua advertising campaign slogan.

While there may indeed be some human waste from all the shanties on the hillsides and septic tanks from the more affluent hillside homes, the problem is mostly PLASTIC and garbage that people toss in the streets, the canals and the bushes with impunity. I reported an elderly couple who lives by Plaza Kioto for throwing their garbage into the canal, and I got a lot of hateful comments, and the elderly woman still curses me every time I walk by. She and her husband continue throwing their trash into the canal instead of waste receptacles less than 25 meters away. City workers know about them, but don't say a thing, much less fine them for littering. Apparently the current municipal administration doesn't care about anything except pouring cement and the appearance of clean beaches, streets and plazas. While it's nice to look clean, the rains washing immense amounts of garbage into our bay is another of our old unattended problems.

However, I would say the same thing in Florida or the Caribbean. Don't swim for 3 days after a heavy rainstorm ANYWHERE except a pool.

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As the saying goes,

“They who have the gold, make the rules.”

As we see nearby, those who get into power can use it for the collective benefit or they can use it for personal enrichment. I recall an expression from the 1980s during the PRI hegemony.

“If you show me a politician who doesn’t become rich while in office, I’ll show you a poor politician.”

It seems that that is becoming the norm some places. And in some places where you would not have expected it 10+ years ago.

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Wish I had the numbers at my fingertips, but Zihuatanejo is very progressive, for Mexico, in terms of sewage treatment plants. The number 11 seems to come to mind as to the number of them.

There aren't many other treatment plants along the coast.

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Wish I had the numbers at my fingertips, but Zihuatanejo is very progressive, for Mexico, in terms of sewage treatment plants. The number 11 seems to come to mind as to the number of them.

There aren't many other treatment plants along the coast.

We have one in La Ropa, two-in-one in La Noria, and one in Ixtapa. Most towns up and down our coast and in the sierra of Guerrero don't have sewage treatment plants.

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